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2017 USS Razorback - #1 Engine Start

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    Posted: 21 Apr 2017 at 4:50pm

USS SILVERSIDES engine start -- years ago at a BASH/WEDDING!  Mike Rank-coon on the air lever.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dr. Stan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2017 at 2:25pm
How in the world do you guys remember all that stuff?  On the Queenfish (SS-393) we had Fairbanks-Morse main engines and they used some kind of pressurized air with which to start them.  I know that I had to demonstrate an ability to start a main engine but I can't remember if I actually had to do it?  I do remember an engineman getting a bit irritated with me, though.  Don't remember why?

Some of the ship's crew weren't too patient with 9901's considering that we were promptly sent on to Nuke school shortly after qualifying and were just transients, kind of like reserves were.  (On the Q-fish there was nothing lower than a left-handed, red-headed, NQP reserve; or so they would tell us.)  But, when one is an 9901 ET striker in the deck gang some of the enginemen were occasionally a bit short with us.  (OK, with me — couldn't have been my attitude, though, because I tended to keep my mouth shut . . . at that point in my career, that is.  Later . . . not so much.Embarrassed)  And, some did take the time to make sure we understood the how and why of the various systems.  I wish I could remember who they were.

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From NavPers 16161 Chapter 2 It States: 
 
4A1. Description. Modern submarine diesel engines are started by admitting compressed air into the engine cylinders at a pressure capable of turning over the engine. This process is continued until the pistons have built up sufficient compression heat to cause combustion. The pressure used in air starting systems is approximately from 250 to 500 psi.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PaulR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 10:51am
I think I recall our FM 38D 8 1/8 used 200lb, reduced from Ship Service 225lb.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Gil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 9:36am
I'm not sure what an airless start is these days, hell I don't even remember 800 lb air.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sewer Pipe Snipe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 7:01am
I am probably wrong, but I believe we started our Fairbanks with 800 pound air. There was, I think, an emergency start where you got five ET's to walk around wringing their hands because without power there would be no hot showers, and the Diesel Gods would start the engine. Or was it to motorize the generator to crank the diesel?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Palm Bay Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 6:10am
Do you mean "Airless Start"?  That was something we would do frequently, in combination with an "Airless Surface".
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gerry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 11:35pm
Both of my boats were SSBNs; mid-80s to mid-90s. I was a bomb-nuke, but had to demonstrate that I *could* start the diesel (never actually got to do it). IIRC, the ginormous Fairbanks-Morse 12-cylinder we had on both boats was LP-Air start only. I could be wrong, like you, my memory is fading quick :(

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 9:00pm
Was starting an engine part of the qual on your boat?  Did you actually do it, or just demonstrate you knew the steps.  Also wasn't their a procedure for air starting an engine.  My memory is fading quickly.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runner485 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by Sewer Pipe Snipe Sewer Pipe Snipe wrote:

What, no hearing protection? You can just about smell the diesel vapor.


They're all deaf anyway, so hearing protection is useless. How ever Walt, I did smell that exhaust, (got that high speed internet).

 Nice job Razorback crew! BZ

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