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    Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 11:30pm
My understanding as well.

Congress did not award the medal.

I often see the MOH and other medals being referred to as "won" instead of awarded.

Also incorrect.




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The Medal of Honor is the United States of America's highest and most prestigious personal military decoration that may be awarded to recognize U.S. military service members who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor.[5] The medal is normally awarded by the President of the United States in the name of the U.S. Congress. Because the medal is presented "in the name of Congress", it is often referred to informally as the "Congressional Medal of Honor". However, the official name of the current award is "Medal of Honor."[1][6]Within the United States Code the medal is referred to as the "Medal of Honor",[7] and less frequently as "Congressional Medal of Honor".[8]U.S. awards, including the Medal of Honor, do not have post-nominal titles, and while there is no official abbreviation, the most common abbreviations are "MOH" and "MH".[9]
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I remember it being called the Congressional Medal of Honor, too, Joe.  But, I don't remember when it changed.  In fact, I have to confess that until you guys mentioned it, I had not even noticed that it had changed.  Embarrassed

BTW, I refuse to respond to the comment about the inabilities of the Congress since I might edge into a forbidden topic area.  (But, I am in sympathy with the sentiments expressed.)  Wink

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Originally posted by 610ET 610ET wrote:

I have reconnected with the silent service episodes via youtube.

I notice that RADM Tom Dykers repeatedly refers to the MOH as the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Was that common back in the late 50's?


If my memory serves me, I believe it was called the Congressional Medal of Honor, since it was awarded by congress...I think. For many years I called it by that name...I think the "Congressional" part was dropped since congress hasn't the ability to make any decision about anything. ClapClap
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I have reconnected with the silent service episodes via youtube.

I notice that RADM Tom Dykers repeatedly refers to the MOH as the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Was that common back in the late 50's?
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Dealey's MOH citation:

“For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty as Commanding Officer of the U.S.S. Harder during her 5th War Patrol in Japanese-controlled waters. Floodlit by a bright moon and disclosed to an enemy destroyer escort which bore down with intent to attack, Comdr. Dealey quickly dived to periscope depth and waited for the pursuer to close range, then opened fire, sending the target and all aboard down in flames with his third torpedo. Plunging deep to avoid fierce depth charges, he again surfaced and, within 9 minutes after sighting another destroyer, had sent the enemy down tail first with a hit directly amidship. Evading detection, he penetrated the confined waters off Tawi Tawi with the Japanese Fleet base 6 miles away and scored death blows on 2 patrolling destroyers in quick succession. With his ship heeled over by concussion from the first exploding target and the second vessel nose-diving in a blinding detonation, he cleared the area at high speed. Sighted by a large hostile fleet force on the following day, he swung his bow toward the lead destroyer for another ‘down-the-throat’ shot, fired 3 bow tubes and promptly crash- dived to be terrifically rocked seconds later by the exploding ship as the Harder passed beneath. This remarkable record of 5 vital Japanese destroyers sunk in 5 short-range torpedo attacks attests the valiant fighting spirit of Comdr. Dealey and his indomitable command.”
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I would like a list of Navy Cross awardees from WWII if someone has it..
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RM2c Calvin A. Bull, USNR, from Millard, NE, was awarded the Bronze Star Medal, having gone missing in action “as sound operator aboard the USS Harder.” Quoted from Bureau of Naval Personnel Information Bulletin (All Hands) No. 339 (June 1945).

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Originally posted by Runner485 Runner485 wrote:

A well decorated, and well deserved, aggressive CO.

I wonder though if his crew got an honorable mention? I'm sure they did, right?


At the completion of the prior War Patrol:

"With all hands on deck, standing straight-faced but glowing with pride, the crew saw their Skipper receive the second Gold Star in lieu of his third Navy Cross. This time Sam did not mind the presentation as much as he did on the previous occasion. Through channels he had learned that the awards he had recommended for officers and men under his command had been awarded, including four Legion of Merit awards, five Silver Star Medals, and eleven Bronze Star Medals. If there was one thing Sam hated with all his might—it was a ribbon hunter. He disliked intensely to stand alone to receive decorations in the company of men whom, he felt, had also earned awards."

The above I pasted from my Kindle copy of Lockwood's "Through Hell and High Water".  I have read every book I can find about US Submarine Operations in The Pacific in WWII.  Sam Dealey, John Cromwell, and Howard Gilmore as well as Charles Lockwood are men that have my total respect now and for the future - as do the men that served with them!


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Originally posted by Runner485 Runner485 wrote:

A well decorated, and well deserved, aggressive CO.

I wonder though if his crew got an honorable mention? I'm sure they did, right?


It looks like they did.

The boat received two PUC's.

My dad's WWII CO on Tirante, CDR. George Street, received the MOH and the boat the PUC. For the rest of his life at the reunions he always said that the crew was awarded the MOH. He just wore it for them.

I was fortunate to meet him once. A true gentleman.


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