Three Blasts on Diving Alarm

What have we learned?

Sometime before Jan 1971 Subscol started teaching that 3 blasts of diving alarm was for emergency surface (Subscol taught 640 class at that time).
Based on the SSORMs prior to May 1971 west coast 637 class boats and by March 1974 east coast 640 class boats were not sounding three blasts for normal surfacing.

Can everyone accept that?

Fine kettle of fish you've gotten us into. Seems all those who swear the klaxon sounded 3 times before surfacing...every time.....didn't have ANY klaxon alarm soundings for an EMERGENCY SURFACE????

When I was on the Queenfish (SS-393) I would have been on either the bow or stern planes when we surfaced.  When we surfaced on the nukes I would have been found either in the crews mess or AMR2 sipping coffee in the throes of channel fever because surfacing meant we were coming in off of patrol and were nearing the Firth of Clyde.  And somebody was going to enjoy liberty at the rag hat club in Ardnadam, or in Dunoon, that night.  So, no matter what was said in Control during a surface maneuver I wasn't there to hear it.  I heard only what came over the 1MC.  And the klaxon, of course.

610 ET,

SaltiDawg wrote: 610ET wrote: I'm sure he just meant that both things happened. I was in Control for every dive and surface and I can assure you that both things happened and that there is no confusion on my part. Why not just enjoy your book? It doesn't seem likely that this little detail will affect the plot or outcome. Watch the Hunt for Red October or Crimson Tide if you want your head to really explode. Are you  flippin loony? I never accused him of any "confusion." I never addressed him, as I tend to ignore his posts because of reasons best kept to myself. The last GD thing I need is for you to tell me " this little detail will (not)  affect the plot or outcome."  Go back and read the thread from my original post.. I was enjoying myself and I think some others were too. I never asked what the proper sequence was in the book I am reading - I know that answer.  I mentioned I had seen the usage in a few other books and asked for recollections to help sort that out. As to "I'm sure he just meant that both things happened."  The very purpose of this thread was to discuss the sequence of events.  Also, while I missed it earlier in the thread - I told you I generally don't read Steve's threads - he made the identical assertion about the sequence and also made an assertion that diesel boats didn't airless surface.  That is flat-butted wrong. We fought a war in the Pacific where most every surface while on patrol were airless surfaces.  Think wanted to have air in the banks when that plane came swooping down after surfacing and think not wanting to run the air compressor nor make the noise when surfacing for that night time surfaced torpedo attack.  Also, many NLON school boats made numerous airless surfaces because they would otherwise air bank be limited as to continued submerged Ops and surfacing. I was on a Diesel Boat in Key West doing daily ops for Sonar School.  We ALWAYS did airless surfaces on the way home so the Duty Section didn't have to have to do it. Boats without bow planes and boats with smaller MBT Vents generally have a lot of trouble doing airless surfaces, because I'm sure you know, part of the airless surface process is to run with the vents and try to broach at speed using planes and angle and capture a bubble in the forward MBTs.  Come to think of it, what kind of boat has bow planes and disproportionately large vents? I don't think I've stuck my nose into any of your threads with a cheap shot, don't know why you think its OK. I was enjoying this thread - just hate to see misinformation and snide shots at young nukeypoo types and similar. I'm 8-9 years younger than Steve and I honestly have no idea how much time he spent on the boats.  His posted recollection is from over 60 years ago and I typically can't recollect what I had for breakfast this morning.  More power to him! Final thing, before I fade off into the sunset, read my post above.  While I did suggest that some of us may be confused, I did not even offer an opinion as to what the sequence of announcement/alarms actually was.  I still don't know.  Some DBFs told conflicting stories.  Some Boomers did also.  I'm not even sure if the SSNs were all consistent. Thanks for the movie suggestions.  SPOILER ALERT:  They're both fiction.

Are you having a bad day? You specifically said that some of us were confused and then you qualified whose recollection you would find valid.

You are welcome to your opinion and if you want to make this a VERY IMPORTANT issue you are welcome to do that as well.

I merely suggested that you enjoy the book.

BTW it seemed to me that the purpose of this thread was not to discuss the sequence of events but rather what events actually happened.

Also I'm pretty sure that you didn't fight the war in the Pacific so I don't understand why you feel that is relevant?

My dad did make war patrols so I will ask him about this although that won't change what the procedure was on the boat that I made six patrols on plus numerous certification evolution s coming out of overhaul.

Take a deep breath.