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    Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 11:26pm

I watched him tonight giving testimony to Congress on C-Span and after a few of the congressmen and women asked questions about the reasons for the collisions of the USS McCaine and Fitzgerald and the deaths and injuries of some sailors including the heroism of some that saved others lives.Then very quietly John McCaine asked if it's true that the sailors have been working 100 hours a week and if that was true, how could they maintain any kind of readiness. The ADM said it was true that many of the junior officers were working that many hours and the navy has already instituted a reduction of watch standing hours from 5 to 4 hours. (Didn't you nukes stand 6 hour watches?)
It was agreed by all that the navy usually has about 360 to 370 ships but that was no longer the case. They were trying to maintain our presence with 255 ships, therefore the ships were out on it's missions longer than usual, the machinery was run into the ground, (my words, as I don't remember what words he used in this case.) and that the men & women were worked to the max.
BTW, Richardson is a submariner.

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Yes we stood six hour watches on boats and now they stand 8 hours.
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Joe, in my experience the watch was manned in accordance with the number of watch standers available.  On my first patrol on the Edison, in 1963, I stood a 6 on/6 off watch schedule (84 hrs/week) until I and the other newbie, Tony Keck, were qualified to man the AMR2UL watch. Since the rest of RC Div had to endure the same schedule there was a lot of pressure on Tony and I to qualify ASAP.  As I recall, it took us about 3 weeks to qualify, at which time we went to a 4 on/8 off schedule which allowed us to sleep more than 3 or 4 hours at a time.  Occasionally, we had a 6 on/12 off schedule, depending on the LPO's whim.  On one patrol we had a couple of extra watch standers and were able to go to a 6 on/18 off schedule, which was like heaven.  But it didn't last long and happened only once.
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Originally posted by Dr. Stan Dr. Stan wrote:

Joe, in my experience the watch was manned in accordance with the number of watch standers available.  On my first patrol on the Edison, in 1963, I stood a 6 on/6 off watch schedule (84 hrs/week) until I and the other newbie, Tony Keck, were qualified to man the AMR2UL watch. Since the rest of RC Div had to endure the same schedule there was a lot of pressure on Tony and I to qualify ASAP.  As I recall, it took us about 3 weeks to qualify, at which time we went to a 4 on/8 off schedule which allowed us to sleep more than 3 or 4 hours at a time.  Occasionally, we had a 6 on/12 off schedule, depending on the LPO's whim.  On one patrol we had a couple of extra watch standers and were able to go to a 6 on/18 off schedule, which was like heaven.  But it didn't last long and happened only once.


My first patrol was 4/8. The next 5 were 6/12.

First patrol was only about 6 weeks as we loaded out in Charleston and went right to the Med.

I had already been on board for 14 months during the yard period and was determined to come home with Dolphins. I made it but not much sleep which was fine with me.
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I had already been on board for 14 months during the yard period and was determined to come home with Dolphins. I made it but not much sleep which was fine with me.
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My quest for dolphins was interrupted by: 1 month mess cooking, 4 months in the yards, 3 weeks of school...and 1 month transferred to the G Washington.
When I got back to Sirago, and qualified I was an old man already it took me so friggin long to qualify. With time off for the above activities 5 months or so, I finally made it in 10 months. By time I did my walk through I had to go through the stuff I learned early on so I didn't forget it during my walk through.
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My quest for dolphins was interrupted by: 1 month mess cooking, 4 months in the yards, 3 weeks of school...and 1 month transferred to the G Washington.
When I got back to Sirago, and qualified I was an old man already it took me so friggin long to qualify. With time off for the above activities 5 months or so, I finally made it in 10 months. By time I did my walk through I had to go through the stuff I learned early on so I didn't forget it during my walk through.
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Old man, Aye.

I had done almost 2 years of Boot, A school, C school and BESS before I got to the boat. I enlisted at 18 and was 21 when I qualified. Felt like time was passing me by. LOL


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It took me 3 years to get to the Edison:  boot camp, ET 'A' school, sub school, Queenfish (SS-393), Nuke school and prototype; 1960 to 1963.  That was the way it was done at the time if one were a 9901.  Three years of training to get to the point one could start qualifying on the boat for which one was destined.  Seems like some time was wasted there.  But, I guess that is why they shortened it.  Personally, I liked it the way I did it.  At least I had the opportunity to qualify on a diesel boat.  And hang out with some people who wore War Patron pins . . . even though I, being a lowly NQP, was pretty much beneath notice.  Wink

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