Nuke Rated Ratings
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Topic: Nuke Rated Ratings
Posted By: Runner485
Subject: Nuke Rated Ratings
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 8:04am
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I know that there is Nuc-MM's and Nuc- EM's. Were ET's nuc-rated? Or for that matter any other rating... ------------- DBF Joe SS485,CVA42 Holland Club Mid-Atlantic Base |
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Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 8:45am
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What is left of the nuc ratings is MM, EM and ET. Gone is IC and long gone is BT. https://www.navy.com/careers/nuclear-operations" rel="nofollow - https://www.navy.com/careers/nuclear-operations |
Posted By: Bgurls
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 8:52am
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Longer gone is EN. In '64 they told me I had to convert to MM. Took the course, studied up on washers and dryers etc. Day of the test they handed me an EN1 exam. Passes and promoted anyway. ------------- SSR269,SS580(CO),SS582(XO),SSBN634,SSBN619,AS18(XO),SUBASE PH(XO),SUBSCHOOL(XO),SUBPAC(FLAG SEC),PERS42(DETAILER), CSS1(Chief Staff Officer)DAV(Life Member)VFW(Life Member) |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 9:54am
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It was Admiral Rickover himself that prevented the establishment of an all inclusive Nuclear Operator Rating. The thought was that the best of the existing ratings that he included really were his Nukes and they would more than hold their own advancement wise. Had he allowed the Navy to go the other route, Nuke Mechanics would have been competing with Nuke Electrical Types, etc, etc.
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Posted By: Runner485
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 10:19am
When I left the navy in Feb of '64 a engine room FN SS later became a EN1 SS. He was later forced, under the threat of surfacing him, to convert to MM. He did and was unable to pass the MMC test and retired as an MM1 SS. I thought that was pretty harsh. It's the same as a TMC being forced to convert to a MMC. I spoke to one such chief on the Seawolf who was gonna get out rather then convert to a MM. He had some harsh words for that program... ------------- DBF Joe SS485,CVA42 Holland Club Mid-Atlantic Base |
Bgurls wrote:Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 10:36am
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Joe ~ MM (weps) do not compete with other MMs for advancement. There are several different MM communities. Surface, surface Nuc, Submarine Aux, Submarine Weps and Submarine Nuc,
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Posted By: Runner485
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 11:12am
Mike That being the case, then why did they convert half the crew to MM and the other half to ET, when they still have to take tests for promotions in their "old" rating...I sure don't understand that at all.  ------------- DBF Joe SS485,CVA42 Holland Club Mid-Atlantic Base |
Posted By: Kwn
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 11:35am
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It all seems so confusing now. My son in law is classified an ET although he is in actually a ST and takes a rating exam specifically on sonar topics. It was so much easier in the 70’s we were all MM’s. Surface, Nuke, and Aux all took the surface exam. Made it easy to make rate when you were competing against the entire fleet. From what I understand since they have segregated the SS rates it is considerably harder to make rate now due to the smaller population. I did kind of chuckle though when I was talking to an A Ganger on my son in laws boat, (Virginia Class), and he complained that the exam had a lot of questions from other classes of boat. I asked would he rather have questions about steam driven laundry extractors and garbage disposals.
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Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 1:55pm
I'm not sure what you are saying.
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Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 2:17pm
Makes no sense. There is still an STS community. So he should be an ST taking Sonar exams. As an FTG I took tests with all sorts of surface fire control systems and radars. We in the submarine community "stole" all sorts of billets for E6 and above from the surface community. We had better evals and far less captain's masts.
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Posted By: Kwn
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 3:33pm
| He does take the STS exams. He was designated ET Sonar in A school 8 years ago. Sorry if there was any confusion. |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2018 at 9:11pm
Precisely correct!
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Posted By: Kwn
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2018 at 2:28pm
As I said, he does take the ST exams, sorry for the confusion. As an MM in the 70’s our test were entirely surface fleet subjects
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Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2018 at 7:13pm
Arguably, they were not "surface fleet subjects" because probably 98% of the entire MMs in the Navy did not serve on Boats. The Test reflected equipments seen by 98% of the MMs in the Navy. |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2018 at 7:14pm
Arguably, they were not "surface fleet subjects" because probably 98% of the entire MMs in the Navy did not serve on Boats. The Test reflected equipments seen by 98% of the MMs in the Navy. |
Posted By: Curt
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2018 at 3:30am
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More info than you need... https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2015/11/12/nukes-and-submariners-get-seven-new-ratings/" rel="nofollow - https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2015/11/12/nukes-and-submariners-get-seven-new-ratings/ ------------- Thanks, Curt |
Posted By: Kwn
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2018 at 1:26pm
Good point. 👍
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