USS Delaware Crew
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Topic: USS Delaware Crew
Posted By: Runner485
Subject: USS Delaware Crew
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 7:28am
We had the priviledge to have a visit with some of the crew from
the Delaware at last Saturdays meeting. I was able to have a chat with
the COB who has 22 years in and is younger then my youngest son, damn.
Anyway we had the COB and 4 other crew there...1 -1st class cook, and
the rest of the guys were E4's. An interesting aside was one of the men
was an MM nuke rated and was with his girlfriend who was also a nuke
rated MM stationed on a carrier. Everyone intro'd themselves with a
little bio about their jobs. The COB gave a little talk about the
upcoming commissioning which will probably be held in Norfolk, Va. but
that may change...Nothing definite yet. I told him of my
feeling that the 688 and the Seawolf class had a lot less "people room"
then my tench class boat or so it seemed to me. He replied the Virginia
class has even less people room since they moved much of the outboard
stuff about a foot in from the hull, giving them less room. He explained
how they qualify the guys out of BESS. They got about 80 new unqualed
sailors. No one wants to go to sea with 80 unqualed crew aboard he said,
so they ship them TAD to other boats for qualifications.I did think the
crew size of 135 was a bit large though for the class. Did the 688's
have a crew that big too???
An interesting visit for sure...
------------- DBF Joe SS485,CVA42 Holland Club Mid-Atlantic Base
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Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 9:58am
The LA class had birthing for 110 officer and enlisted. The VA class has birthing for 132. I do not know why the increase because I cannot figure out where there is an increase in the number of watch stations. I can only come up with 75 manned watches. Then there are 13 more non watch standers (cooks, Doc, supply and office). They did not put the crew in 4 section because they stand 8 hour watches. So what are those other 29 enlisted doing? I am basing this on what we had on 637 boats. We did have a need of 6 more watch standers in the ship's control party. We had birthing for 95 enlisted and watch stations for 95 enlisted. We were assigned 120 enlisted based on PM requirements. For example the Fire Control division only needed 3 watch standers but PM requirements were for 6 people.
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Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 10:56am
LA Crew Size is 16 + 127 = 143 soles. 110 bunks sounds grim!
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Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 2:25pm
I went looking for manning requirements of the VA Class boats and found this:
Reduced Watchstation Manning
Virginia’s new capabilities have not required any additional crew. In fact, a
thorough re-engineering of the ship’s functionality, manpower requirements, and
billet structure has enabled the reduction of 15 crew watchstanders in comparison to
Seawolf. The key to this greater efficiency has been technology insertion, particularly
for automating tasks and handling information, and Virginia’s modular design will
facilitate even further reductions as new technologies become available. Typical
efficiencies are found in the following areas:
- Ship Control Station:
Virginia’s digital “fly-by-wire” advanced ship control station will be
operated by a Pilot, Copilot, and a Relief Pilot. These three watchstanders replace the
customary Diving Officer, Chief of the Watch, Helmsman, Planesman, and Messenger needed on
previous submarine classes.
- Navigation - Quartermaster Watch-
station: The increased use of automation, such as electronic charting, allows
combining the duties of the Navigation Electronics Technician and the Quartermaster of the
Watch into those of a single Navigation Watchstander.
- Throttleman – Reactor Operator
Watchstation: Increased use of technology and automation allows the Reactor
Operator also to perform the duties of the Throttleman while carrying out his current
responsibilities.
- Auxiliaryman Aft Watchstation:
The relative simplicity and innovative automation of Virginia’s engineroom will allow
engineroom personnel to monitor installed auxiliary equipment, thus eliminating the
Auxiliaryman Aft watchstation.
- Torpedo Room Watch:
Automated systems and tours by other watchstanders allow the elimination of the Torpedo
Room watchstander.
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https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/docs/virginia_class.htm" rel="nofollow - https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/docs/virginia_class.htm
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Posted By: sailor777
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 5:13pm
torp room needs a watch stander, in port and at sea, esp. for special weapons. many time as duty chief, I had to split inspection and check in every four hours etc. split with duty office so each one of us would be there every two hours. kind of makes the above requirements a little questionable?? spc, usn, ret.
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Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 8:37pm
It is no longer a requirement for the inport room watch.
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Posted By: Runner485
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2019 at 8:21am
Based on everything you guys responded to, could it be that the 135 number the COB gave me was the fact that they are a PCU crew? He didn't mention the crew size after commissioning, so I just assumed the number remained the same.
------------- DBF Joe SS485,CVA42 Holland Club Mid-Atlantic Base
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Posted By: Jim Mandelblatt
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 11:51am
Hey Joe.. gotta love the DELAWARE's crew patch... love the Blue Hen..
------------- http://ss481.com/
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Posted By: Runner485
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 1:06pm
Thanks for the pic Jim. That's the first time I saw it...I gotta find out where I can get me one of those...
------------- DBF Joe SS485,CVA42 Holland Club Mid-Atlantic Base
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Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 1:21pm
Runner485 wrote:
Thanks for the pic Jim. That's the first time I saw it...I gotta find out where I can get me one of those...
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Google on uss delaware ship's patch...
Numerous hits - one follows.
https://www.popularpatch.com/navy-patches/submarine-patches/uss-delaware-ssn-791-fast-attack-submarine-patch" rel="nofollow - https://www.popularpatch.com/navy-patches/submarine-patches/uss-delaware-ssn-791-fast-attack-submarine-patch
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Posted By: Runner485
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 7:52am
Thanks for the link Salti One. I just placed my order...
------------- DBF Joe SS485,CVA42 Holland Club Mid-Atlantic Base
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Posted By: Dr. Stan
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 3:33pm
Joe, you could (and should) try BC Patches ( http://www.bcpatch.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.bcpatch.com/ ) which is the commercial website of Barry Commons, the USSVI National Storekeeper. As the Base Storekeeper for Smoky Mountain Base I have purchased many items from him and I recommend him highly. BTW, he is a retired Navy Chief (don't remember his rating).
And, you can find some patches (except for ship's patches) and other items at the below websites:
http://ussvinationalstorekeeper.com/" rel="nofollow - http://ussvinationalstorekeeper.com/ http://submarineshop.com/patches/" rel="nofollow - https://submarineshop.com/
------------- It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues.~Abe Lincoln SS-393, SSBN-610(B), SSBN-624(G), SSN-591 USSVI Life Member; Holland Club; Plank Owner, Smoky Mtn. Base
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