U.S. Submarine History - A work in progress

A work in progress

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Posted By: Rontini599
Subject: A work in progress
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2023 at 5:25pm

Two topics in this post:

1. In my humble opinion, the best researchers of Submarine History are: Clay Blain Jr for his Silent Victory, Samuel Morrison for his huge fifteen volume work on the Navy in WWII (one of which is about submarines), John Alden for his monumental work on correction the U.S. Submarine Attacks During WWII, Jim Christley for complying the Submarine Force Data book, Normal Polmar, and Norman Friedman. Jim's book lists all boats, numbers, yard where built, Commission and decom dates, WWII date, weapons, engine configuration, modifications, Sponsors, first CO's and much more. This work is not currently in publications and doubtful if it can be found. He has written other books on submarines and is even an artist.

2. I am in the process of complying a spreadsheet of a lot of Jim's work to include: SS numbers, name, yard, Commissioning and decom dates, WWII patrols and tonnage sank, other re-

commissions dates, countries sold to and final disposition. I am up to SS-408 (Sennet) currently.

The work will evently end up to be about 900 rows vertically depending on how much SSN/SSBN stuff I include.

IS THERE AN INTEREST IN THIS?

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Posted By: gerry
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2023 at 8:01pm

Yes! And I have all of the data from the old Decklog website which has around 680 submarines in detail, I'd be happy to share with you.

id Type OtherTypes HullNo ShipName Class ShipType ShortType Status ComYr ComDate DecomYr DeComDate LaunchDate UIC Length Displacement Officers Enlisted Propulsion BuildID Builder Beam Props Fate WebSite

431 SS 408 Sennet SS 285 Submarine Submarine Sold 1944 1944-08-22 00:00:00.000 1968 1968-12-02 00:00:00.000 1944-06-06 00:00:00.000 312 2391 10 71 Diesel - Electric 12 Portsmouth Navy Yard 27 2 Sennet was sold to Southern Scrap Material Co. Ltd., New Orleans, LA. http://www.sennet.org/

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USS Simon Bolivar - SSBN 641 (B)
USS Henry M. Jackson - SSBN 730 (B)
USSVI - Wyoming Base

Posted By: Bruce
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2023 at 10:31am

I'd be interested in that work.

Posted By: Rontini599
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2023 at 5:24pm

Thanks Gerry!

I would like to have that information. It contains more than I have. My basic information came from Jim Christley's U.S. Naval Submarine Force Information Book Tht lists all boats up to SSN-22 (Connecticut) except for a lot of disposal information. Thanks Jim.

I do need SRP (Completed recycling dates) for boats SSN 685 up.

Dan is helping with some of that stuff also.

My plan was to keep it one page wide. Contains hull #, Name, Yard built, Commiss date, Decomm date, disposal, war record of sinkings/tonnage. I have some of the disposal/history into two rows.

I have completed it up to SSN 808 John B. Dalton and the names of the two new Columbia Class: District of Columbia and Wisconsin to be SSBN 826 and 27.

Next trick is to dig through the Facts/Chronology Polaris-Poseidon-Trident book of some 116 pages to dig up a little more on the boomers. It goes up to October 2000.

Also be advised that the WWII sinkings and tonnage reports are from 3 sources and no one can certain which is the most correct. I think the worst was the SORG report which was based solely on patrol reports. I have Cmdr. John Alden's study "United States and Allied Submarine Successes in the Pacific and Far East During WWII" and latest is the 1999-4 edition he completed. He worked on his books for 25 years seaching world records and a lot of Japanese records also. I used the figures from the JANAC report published in 1947. There is another 40 page report with changed from Naval Submarine League that is available, but this study would go on forever. JANAC is Joint-Army-Navy-Assessment-Committee.

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Posted By: Rontini599
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2023 at 4:57pm

OK gents:

it is done! $10 via thumb drive or $7 for download in email. PLEASE DO NOT PASS to anyone else.

All boat numbers; up to SSN 823- with #809 up unnamed as yet

All boat names; including the new SSBN’s: Dist. of Columbia and Wisconsin

Class with variant and Block # for Virginia Class

Building Yard

Commiss. Date (sometimes multiple times)

Decomm. Date

Guppy Converstions

Notes:

War Record (Ships sunk and Tonnage) + Korea patrols

Lost or Disposition (Sale or Scrapping dates)

Accidents of some

Other signifcant events in their history

Listing of all shipyards that created all the boats and # they built

Number of Boats/class

Missiles/rockets used

Listing of all Tenders

Listing of all Fins/Planes at parks in Seattle and Miami by hull #

It prints into 16-17 pages in “Landscape mode only” as it too wide for vertical 8.5” x 11” paper. Nothing in this is copyright protected. This spreadsheet can be sorted to list the boat names first if desired by the owners.

I will give this you via free download or $10 via Thumb Drive. You may distribute to your Bases. They, in turn may sell it for whatever you decide for their Base Treasuries.

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