Three Blasts on Diving Alarm
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Topic: Three Blasts on Diving Alarm
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Subject: Three Blasts on Diving Alarm
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 1:09pm
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I'm in the process of a reading a really good book on sub operations on SSN-637 Class Boats during the Cold War. About 15% into it. The boat is in the Narrabay Op Areas, preparing to surface to transit back to NLON. After the "Prepare to Surface," etc. we see in quotes, "Surface, Surface, Surface." "The diving alarm honked three times." Not quibbling about "honked" vs blasts, however this is about the fifth book that I have read in the last year or two where experienced submariners apparently reached into their memory banks and found three blasts on the diving alarm for routine surfacing. On the boats that I served on, including three SSN-637s and two Diesel Boats, there were no blasts on anything for a routine surfacing. The COW passed the word, "Surface Surface Surface." An Emergency Surface announcement was accompanied by three blasts on the Diving Alarm. Any different recollections? Edit: The book is called, "Stalking The Red Bear." The author says the book was essentially ghosted by the CO of a SSN-637 that actually deployed from NLON. I will post a review after I am done reading it... I'm enjoying it so far! |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 1:29pm
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I remember my dad going on a rant because War and Remembrance did the same thing. I think it was W & R. He said they described, perfectly, being on the surface at night, etc., then got THAT wrong.
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Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 1:36pm
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On the four boats (three 637 and one 640) never sounded any alarm on a normal or airless surfacing. I did a lot of surfaces and dives as COW/DOOW |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 1:41pm
Exactly my experience. It's funny how often I've seen authors, some of them Qualified in Submarines, that insist they remember three blasts for routine surfacing. Glad to see my memory is not shot, at least on this subject. lol Now this is a no sh**er, I remember the time I was sitting in the head while backing down at three times test depth. Anyone else remember being there? |
FTGC(SS) Lane wrote:Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 2:17pm
| ^^^ What .... three times test depth? Must have been a diesel boat, guaranteed not a nuc. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 3:04pm
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Sorry all you young nukeypoo types but on the diesel boats there were few if any "airless" surfaces and at all times three blasts on the diving alarm followed by "Surface, Surface, Surface" on the 1MC were std procedure. AtoZ |
Posted By: GaryKC
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 3:10pm
After a lot of thought, I'll amend my reply to "Surface, Surface, Surface" on the 1MC. Diving alarm 3 times only for emergency surface.  ------------- SS484 SS426 SSBN618 Joined this BBS: May 25 2007 Website http://www.usstusk.com" rel="nofollow - USS Tusk SS 426 |
Posted By: fortyrod
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 3:29pm
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yep, three blasts on Chivo and Volador ------------- Everything is relative |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 3:43pm
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Assuming everyone's recollection is correct, can anyone think why it would have been one way on a Diesel Boat and a different way on a Nuke? IIRC, in approximately 1969-70 SUBLANT and SUBPAC standardized the SSORM. However, that must have been standardized by Class of boat and I do not know for sure if it covered Diesel Boats as that was after my time. As hard as I've tried over the past few years, I have never been able to find the SSORM Surfacing Bill on line. I believe the SSORM is/was comsublant/comsubpacinst 5400.39 Thanks for the replys. |
Posted By: gcconnor1
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 3:46pm
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52 Years ago on the Allen and I can't remember!!!!!!!!!!! I remember two blasts when diving (we still had the aooga horns, one of which the SSBN 608 Association received from De-Com Chief of the Boat Don Sweet and is still sounded at reunions). Once I was qualified I was in my bunk whenever I could. ------------- GC Connor EMC(SS)/LT USN Ret USS Ethan Allen(7) Holland Club WA2STJ |
Posted By: 609EM1
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 4:46pm
| On the Bugara SS-331 ('62-'63) and the Sam Houston SSBN-609 ('65-'69) three blasts on the diving alarm (klaxon) was for Emergency Surface only. |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 5:07pm
Maybe I've seen too many John Wayne movies, but I've got this image of a WWII submerged approach on the enemy convoy. John decides to surface in the midst of the convoy and decimate them with his deck guns. He whispers to the COW, Surface the Boat. The COW passes the word and sounds the Klaxon three times. The camera shifts to the enemy Sonar Types tearing off their earphones in pain. |
Posted By: Johnbay
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 5:16pm
Ditto on Jallao! |
Posted By: Dr. Stan
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 6:12pm
Yup, as a young 9901 on the Queenfish, SS-393, many, many eons ago, I definitely remember hearing, "Now surface, surface, surface." But, that might have been only on the Queenfish . . . or not? ------------- It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues.~Abe Lincoln SS-393, SSBN-610(B), SSBN-624(G), SSN-591 USSVI Life Member; Holland Club; Plank Owner, Smoky Mtn. Base |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 6:32pm
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??? No question re "Surface, Surface, Surface." |
Posted By: Hagar
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 8:16pm
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4 nooks. 3 blasts only for emergency surfaces. The modern boats don't have the corresponding lights the Tullibee had. Green for diving alarm and red for collision. They were in noisy spaces. hagar ------------- Tullibee, Miami, Holland, Frank Cable, Florida Gold, San Francisco. |
Posted By: Runner485
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 10:46pm
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Sirago 485, 3 blasts of diving alarm, then surface,surface,surface. '60-64.
------------- DBF Joe SS485,CVA42 Holland Club Mid-Atlantic Base |
Posted By: PaulR
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 4:00am
YUP...also USS Sea Robin 63-67... ------------- Paul http://ss-407.net" rel="nofollow">  ETN2(SS) 63-67 |
Posted By: Bob Gawe
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 5:22am
Chris, as I remember you were always in your bunk. Had to say it  Yes on the Allen 3 on surface. ------------- Bob Gawe |
Posted By: rjs2005
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 7:51am
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5 nooks, my recollection is the same as Hagar- 3 blasts of the diving alarm only for emergency surface. Only my 1st boat (630) had klaxons as equipped by Newport News SYD, although as those old boats were decommed, klaxons were obtained and mounted near the BCP on my next 2 subsequent boats (676 and 671), so the Chief of the Watch could hold the 1MC mike up to it and sound a real klaxon for diving, as opposed to the awful synthesized sound the installed diving alarm made. ------------- Chuck Brunson EMCS(SS) Ret. SSBN 630, SSN 676, SSN 671, SSN 712, SSBN 738 |
Posted By: Bgurls
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 3:28pm
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Surfacing without air was fairly common on 580's, since the low pressure blow was engine exhaust. If a Fairbanks can blow the mast it can easily blow tanks at a shallower depth. ------------- SSR269,SS580(CO),SS582(XO),SSBN634,SSBN619,AS18(XO),SUBASE PH(XO),SUBSCHOOL(XO),SUBPAC(FLAG SEC),PERS42(DETAILER), CSS1(Chief Staff Officer)DAV(Life Member)VFW(Life Member) |
Posted By: Johnbay
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 3:34pm
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Welcome aboard! |
Posted By: Hagar
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 7:54pm
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All my boats had klaxons installed also. The Tullibee could surface on the diesel also, but that Jimmy HATED it. hagar ------------- Tullibee, Miami, Holland, Frank Cable, Florida Gold, San Francisco. |
Posted By: Palm Bay Ken
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 7:33am
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In GRAMPUS (SS523) in the mid 50's and GUDGEON (SS567) in the late 60's, the three blasts of the Klaxon was ONLY for EMERGENCY SURFACE. ------------- Ken Wiltshire K4HBE SS-206/SS-523/S1C/SSN-578/Ole Miss(NESEP)/DLG-14/SS-563/SS-567/SSN-584/CSS6/NavSafCen/ York County Public Schools/Virginia Beach City Public Schools/Retired |
Posted By: Boy Throttleman
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2016 at 6:07am
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Requin SS481 Carp SS338 1962-68 3 blasts on klaxon surface surface surface on 1 MC. |
Posted By: bob dubois
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 2:35am
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I remember if my memory works on the Sailfish SS572 we did 3 on the klaxon for surface. ------------- Bob DuBois SK1(SS) USS Sailfish SS572 USS Sculpin SSN590 USS John Adams SSBN620(Blue) Holland Club |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 6:47am
My memory is different than Mike's. I remember the diving alarm on surfacing in the early 90s, but we're talking about really old grey matter now. Sounds like this is something that wasn't standard across the fleet or standard across boat type. |
Posted By: 610ET
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 9:31am
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610 combined crew in the shipyard and later 610 Blue were three blasts for every normal surface.. I was aboard 6/67 - 4/71.
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Posted By: Dr. Stan
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 3:23pm
Thanks Chris for confirming my memory. I thought we did the 3 x (klaxon + surface announcement) thing while I was on the Edison (1963-65) but wasn't sure if I were conflating it with my Queenfish experience (1961-62), which I am sure about. ------------- It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues.~Abe Lincoln SS-393, SSBN-610(B), SSBN-624(G), SSN-591 USSVI Life Member; Holland Club; Plank Owner, Smoky Mtn. Base |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 3:41pm
Could it be that during 3-4 year tours on an SSBN that they had to add sounding the diving alarm three times on surfacing to jog the memories since the last surfacing so long before? Or did the off-crew leave Post It Notes?  |
Posted By: gcconnor1
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 3:44pm
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Come on now!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We did have sea trials before every patrol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- GC Connor EMC(SS)/LT USN Ret USS Ethan Allen(7) Holland Club WA2STJ |
Posted By: Dr. Stan
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 3:51pm
I suppose that surfacing once every 60 days has its downside. One does tend to forget. OBTW, we didn't have any Post-It notes back then since they were not available until 1974 or so. We depended on the Quartermaster's memory instead. ------------- It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues.~Abe Lincoln SS-393, SSBN-610(B), SSBN-624(G), SSN-591 USSVI Life Member; Holland Club; Plank Owner, Smoky Mtn. Base |
Posted By: 610ET
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 5:51pm
We also had to requalfy every patrol for the same reason. 
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Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 6:39pm
So I guess you couldn't ask the 120+ other guys that manned your boat? Oh wait.  |
Posted By: fortyrod
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 4:04am
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This is an interesting thread which reveals some very serious inadequacies and incongruities in Past Naval operations within the submarine community. There were inconsistencies of klaxon operations upon surfacing from boat to boat. On the out word appearance it seems as if the Commanding Officers of each submarine in the past had prerogatives which were exercised regarding whether the diving alarm was operated upon surfacing. These prerogatives should not have been an option as it it took away uniformity within the submarine service. Even more frighting is the stark revelation there were no Standard Operating Procedures (SOP) on diesel boats or ORSE boards to inspect them. It is proposed that an investigative committee headed by an Admiral From Naval Air, and Two Captains (along with numerous top heavy staff weinies) from the surface line look into how these past errors could be corrected. Recommendations are to be made how to retroactively correct these serious mistakes, and what training should be instituted to re-educated the crew. A budget of 1.2 million will be allocated from the operating budget of defense department. Additional expenses may be incurred if an Air Force augmentation is required. ------------- Everything is relative |
Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 5:17am
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If my memory, from 45 years ago, serves me correctly I believe we were taught, at Sub School, three blasts were for emergency surface. |
Posted By: Boy Throttleman
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 5:59am
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I have estimated doing over 1000 dives in my 5 years at sea 62-68. (this estimate uses research at the National Archives of the USS Carps deck logs) During a chat with the COB of the USS Maryland launching he said he had done maybe 300 dives in 21 years. I laughed and asked "if he had to take a refresher course before surfacing after a boomer patrol". He laughed and said "no but it was a close thing" Doing that research would be relatively easy (if the deck logs were declassified, some years weren't). Just ask for the year you went aboard and the year you left and do the math. |
Posted By: JrKrup, Skimmer
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 11:36am
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Along with the controversy as to whether the surfacing alarm was sounded, or for that matter 2 blasts for diving, could the alarm be heard from outside the boat while it was submerged, whether the old Klaxon or the new "whoop whoop whoop" alarm? If it COULD be heard on the bad guy's sonar, would you want him to hear you hit the alarm for a normal surfacing? This skimmer really doesn't care to know either way! ------------- Jon Krup, Skimmer - Minesweeps |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 12:03pm
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Jon, The Diving Alarm certainly could be heard by other vessels as a distinct transient. That said, if the boat was surfacing it is inherently a loud evolution- as is submerging. I think the Surfacing Alarm would not be a major concern if you were about to blow all MBT and/or start the LP Blower or Diesel, or Blow MBTs with HP Air, bang hatches, and start cavitating all within a minute or so. Generally on some boats, surfacing was initiated by saying "Surface" three times. As you see here there are mixed reports as to whether in addition the Diving Alarm was also sounded on a routine surfacing. Some report yes, some no. If I've read correctly, everyone agrees that three blasts were sounded following the word being passed three times in an emergency. I do think at least a couple of us may be confused on this point, because within the same class and same time period there seems to be conflicting resolutions. Just my own thought, I would tend to give more credence to the memories of COWs, OODs, and DO's then others - I think the rest of us may simply not remember as well.  I'm quite sure that no one suggested anything other than two blasts on the diving alarm when submerging. On the 637s there was a Dive Bill and also a Stationary Dive Bill for use in the ice. Both had two blasts on the Diving Alarm following the 1MC announcement. I was the OP and asked the question because in a book that I am reading the author reports three blasts on the diving alarm following the word being passed on a routine surfacing on a SSN-637 in 1971 to head to the barn in NLON. At that exact time I was serving on the 2nd of 3 consecutive SSN-637s out of NLON all in the same Squadron as the boat in the book, if not on the boat in the book. We did not at that time on that Class sound the Diving Alarm at all when doing a routine surfacing - only in an Emergency. When I posted, I knew that it was a mistake in the book I'm reading, but having seen the three blasts on routine surfaces in a few other books, I asked for recollections here. Still not sure who did and who didn't as a matter of time or Class. One additional action required in an Emergency Surface was that the EMBT Marotta Valves were to be monitored and possibly manually operated if directed - a dangerous proposition. |
Posted By: Dr. Stan
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 1:03pm
You are correct, sir. Certainly a retroactive correction is indicated and should be conducted forthwith. I'm not certain, however, whether a mere $1.2 million would be sufficient and suggest that it be increased to $1.2 Billion in order to cover office expenses, traveling expenses and other essential incidentals, like bar tabs, private massages and so on. This long overlooked travesty of justice shall not stand uncorrected. ------------- It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues.~Abe Lincoln SS-393, SSBN-610(B), SSBN-624(G), SSN-591 USSVI Life Member; Holland Club; Plank Owner, Smoky Mtn. Base |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 1:22pm
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I dunno, but for the summers of 1953&4 Toro did school boat out of NLON SUBSCOL. That's 5 days/wk 18 dives & surfaces/day for approx. 6 months. It was always 3 blasts followed by "Surface Surface Surface" and if anybody would think that, even at my age I couldn't remember that, they gotta be kidding. AtoZ |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 1:26pm
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PS - For the two winters ['53 & '54] we recovered in St Thomas by providing ASW training for DD's outta Gitmo and weekends visiting various Caribbean liberty ports. A tough job but somebody hadda do it. AtoZ |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 1:33pm
You are the first person that I have ever heard suggest that the 3 blasts were sounded before the word was passed. What was the sequence on subsequent boats on which you served? |
Posted By: 610ET
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 4:48pm
I'm sure he just meant that both things happened. I was in Control for every dive and surface and I can assure you that both things happened and that there is no confusion on my part. Why not just enjoy your book? It doesn't seem likely that this little detail will affect the plot or outcome. Watch the Hunt for Red October or Crimson Tide if you want your head to really explode. |
Posted By: SaltiDawg
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 5:33pm
Are you flippin loony? I never accused him of any "confusion." I never addressed him, as I tend to ignore his posts because of reasons best kept to myself. The last GD thing I need is for you to tell me " this little detail will (not) affect the plot or outcome." Go back and read the thread from my original post.. I was enjoying myself and I think some others were too. I never asked what the proper sequence was in the book I am reading - I know that answer. I mentioned I had seen the usage in a few other books and asked for recollections to help sort that out. As to "I'm sure he just meant that both things happened." The very purpose of this thread was to discuss the sequence of events. Also, while I missed it earlier in the thread - I told you I generally don't read Steve's threads - he made the identical assertion about the sequence and also made an assertion that diesel boats didn't airless surface. That is flat-butted wrong. We fought a war in the Pacific where most every surface while on patrol were airless surfaces. Think wanted to have air in the banks when that plane came swooping down after surfacing and think not wanting to run the air compressor nor make the noise when surfacing for that night time surfaced torpedo attack. Also, many NLON school boats made numerous airless surfaces because they would otherwise air bank be limited as to continued submerged Ops and surfacing. I was on a Diesel Boat in Key West doing daily ops for Sonar School. We ALWAYS did airless surfaces on the way home so the Duty Section didn't have to have to do it. Boats without bow planes and boats with smaller MBT Vents generally have a lot of trouble doing airless surfaces, because I'm sure you know, part of the airless surface process is to run with the vents and try to broach at speed using planes and angle and capture a bubble in the forward MBTs. Come to think of it, what kind of boat has bow planes and disproportionately large vents? I don't think I've stuck my nose into any of your threads with a cheap shot, don't know why you think its OK. I was enjoying this thread - just hate to see misinformation and snide shots at young nukeypoo types and similar. I'm 8-9 years younger than Steve and I honestly have no idea how much time he spent on the boats. His posted recollection is from over 60 years ago and I typically can't recollect what I had for breakfast this morning. More power to him! Final thing, before I fade off into the sunset, read my post above. While I did suggest that some of us may be confused, I did not even offer an opinion as to what the sequence of announcement/alarms actually was. I still don't know. Some DBFs told conflicting stories. Some Boomers did also. I'm not even sure if the SSNs were all consistent. Thanks for the movie suggestions. SPOILER ALERT: They're both fiction. |
Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 6:10pm
Well that is not had to do when a boat only does two dives and two surfaces a patrol cycle. Shoot I did six (three and three) in 17 months aboard the 642. But I did far more than that qualifying for and in my first three months standing COW. And I am not sure how many I did in combination of the two watches over 6 years. "Dive, prepare to surface" "Prepare to surface, aye" "Chief of the watch, pass on the 1MC 'prepare to surface'" "Pass on the 1MC 'prepare to surface, aye' [on 1MC] "Prepare to surface" ... "Dive the ship is ready to surface" "The ship is ready to surface, Aye". "Officer of the Deck, the ship is ready to surface" "Very well" ... Dive, Surface the ship" "Surface the ship, aye" "Chief of the Watch, pass on the 1MC 'Surface, Surface, Surface'" "Pass on the 1MC 'Surface, Surface, Surface', aye" [on 1MC] "Surface, Surface, Surface" "Blow the forward group, blow the after group" {The last part is different when doing an airless surface} |
Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 6:20pm
We started doing airless surfaces on the 648 about 1981 and the 666 was doing it when I reported aboard . It was easy. Broach. Start the LP blower when holding broach and the head valve popped open and ran it until 17# back pressure. The boat was actually safely surfaced before that back pressure was achieved. |
Posted By: 610ET
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 8:26pm
Are you having a bad day? You specifically said that some of us were confused and then you qualified whose recollection you would find valid. You are welcome to your opinion and if you want to make this a VERY IMPORTANT issue you are welcome to do that as well. I merely suggested that you enjoy the book. BTW it seemed to me that the purpose of this thread was not to discuss the sequence of events but rather what events actually happened. Also I'm pretty sure that you didn't fight the war in the Pacific so I don't understand why you feel that is relevant? My dad did make war patrols so I will ask him about this although that won't change what the procedure was on the boat that I made six patrols on plus numerous certification evolution s coming out of overhaul. Take a deep breath. |
Posted By: 610ET
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 8:33pm
Actually we did a lot more evolution's than that particularly coming out of the shipyard. But, so what the number? The surfacing procedure on my boat was what I stated and apparently that was also true on on other boats as stated by others. Interesting that there was not uniformity in the procedure. |
Posted By: Dantini
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2016 at 7:26pm
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610 ET, I am more inclined to believe the responses from former COW/DOW's posts stating the actual voice communications transferred between the Dive Officer and the COW/DOW who actually would have sounded the diving/surfacing alarm rather than the recollections of Nav ETs who basically just wrote love notes to each other on the Plexiglas plotting boards. Just saying.
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Posted By: Runner485
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2016 at 5:04am
I can see you nucs are confused. I can understand that, since you only surfaced once in a while and more than likely forgot how to do it, so it probably didn't matter how you did it. Generally, smokeboats surfaced every night to charge our batteries, so we remembered how to do it or we would snorkel. That's almost surfacing.  ------------- DBF Joe SS485,CVA42 Holland Club Mid-Atlantic Base |
Posted By: Dr. Stan
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2016 at 3:13pm
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When I was on the Queenfish (SS-393) I would have been on either the bow or stern planes when we surfaced. When we surfaced on the nukes I would have been found either in the crews mess or AMR2 sipping coffee in the throes of channel fever because surfacing meant we were coming in off of patrol and were nearing the Firth of Clyde. And somebody was going to enjoy liberty at the rag hat club in Ardnadam, or in Dunoon, that night. So, no matter what was said in Control during a surface maneuver I wasn't there to hear it. I heard only what came over the 1MC. And the klaxon, of course. ------------- It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues.~Abe Lincoln SS-393, SSBN-610(B), SSBN-624(G), SSN-591 USSVI Life Member; Holland Club; Plank Owner, Smoky Mtn. Base |
Posted By: 610ET
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 9:46am
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I spoke with my dad about this. He said that all of his
boats sounded the Klaxon three times before surfacing.
Over the course of his 30 year career he was on multiple
boats. He was a plankowner on Tirante and made her war patrols. After the war he was on Greenfish, Grouper, Burrfish, Barb
and Odax. In 1958 he was in the first group of SCPO/MCPO promotes. In
1959 he went to the pre-commissioning crew of SSBN 598 as QMCS(SS) and then
COB. He left in 1960 when he was promoted to LDO Ensign. After 1960 he was not on another submarine so his reference
time is 1943-1960. The remainder of his career was to assignments to recommission Proteus and commission
Canopus along with two tours at Subschool, Groton. He retired as a LCDR in 1973. Dad is now 90 but still sharp. |
Posted By: GaryKC
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 10:17am
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Fine kettle of fish you've gotten us into. Seems all those who swear the klaxon sounded 3 times before surfacing...every time.....didn't have ANY klaxon alarm soundings for an EMERGENCY SURFACE???? ------------- SS484 SS426 SSBN618 Joined this BBS: May 25 2007 Website http://www.usstusk.com" rel="nofollow - USS Tusk SS 426 |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 11:54am
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Huh? Every surface was handled like an Emergency Surface. Then if we really needed to do one we knew how. AtoZ |
Posted By: FTGC(SS) Lane
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2016 at 12:47pm
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What have we learned? Sometime before Jan 1971 Subscol started teaching that 3 blasts of diving alarm was for emergency surface (Subscol taught 640 class at that time). Based on the SSORMs prior to May 1971 west coast 637 class boats and by March 1974 east coast 640 class boats were not sounding three blasts for normal surfacing. Can everyone accept that? |