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    Posted: 08 Nov 2017 at 9:26am

It has always been my understanding that enlisted sailors don’t have “rank”.

 

Their equivalent is rating (occupation) and rate which is an indicator of pay grade.

 

However, the terms are often used interchangeably such as in “Choose your rate, choose your fate”.

 

On another website a retired USN O-5 is claiming that rate is merely shorthand for rating.

 

Have things changed?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FTGC(SS) Lane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2017 at 11:02am
Quote The use of the word "rank" for Navy enlisted personnel is incorrect. The term is "rate." The rating badge is a combination of rate (pay grade, as indicated by the chevrons) and rating (occupational specialty, as indicated by the symbol just above the chevrons).

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/ranks/rankrate.html
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Rate is Pay Grade - similar to an Officer's Rank or Pay Grade.

Been that way for more than half a Century in my experience.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bgurls Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 2017 at 11:23pm
Our NESEP prep school class was having a personnel inspection by a Marine major.  He looked at my EN2 crow and asked "What rate is that?"   "Petty Officer Second Class, Sir!"
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