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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 610ET Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 1:39pm

You wrote that you were not familiar with this story so I posted the link to it.

I thought you might find it interesting.



Edited by 610ET - 19 Apr 2018 at 1:53pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SaltiDawg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 6:07pm
Never mind.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 610ET Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 7:48pm

You're welcome.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runner485 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by 610ET 610ET wrote:


You're welcome.


I do remember Mooney and Hagar both when they posted here. And thanks for posting that news story. I remember seeing the photos of 711 when she returned and in dry dock...That was no grounding of 711. That boat crashed into a mountain at full speed. To me grounding infers bouncing off the bottom, or something similar like that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SaltiDawg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 8:57pm
Never mind. Sorry.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runner485 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 6:25am
Why so touchy! Just a matter of opinions, regardless of what navy official designates it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 610ET Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 2018 at 8:49pm
Originally posted by Runner485 Runner485 wrote:

Why so touchy! Just a matter of opinions, regardless of what navy official designates it.


Good question.

In a "normal" grounding there isn't a death and the majority of the crew are not injured.

Pretty obvious that this was a whole different event.

Be interesting to see how the Navy classified it.

He certainly wasn't appreciative of learning about a serious submarine event that he somehow had missed.

Maybe he just likes to be "right?"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FTGC(SS) Lane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 5:52am
OK Enough of this argument of what the accident was called. The Navy calls it a grounding, so it was a grounding.
Quote "Although the grounding incident compelled me to punish [him] and remove him from command, in my opinion it does not negate 19 years of exemplary service," the admiral wrote. "Prior to the grounding incident, USS San Francisco demonstrated a trend of continuing improvement and compiled an impressive record of achievement under [Mooney's] leadership. Moreover, the crew's post-grounding response under his direct leadership was commendable and enabled [the sub's] recovery and safe return to port.

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=18257

COMMAND INVESTIGATION OF THE APPARENT SUBMERGED GROUNDING OF THE USS SAN FRANCISCO
https://www.npr.org/documents/2005/may/uss_sanfrancisco_sub.pdf
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runner485 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 7:16am
Originally posted by FTGC(SS) Lane FTGC(SS) Lane wrote:

OK Enough of this argument of what the accident was called. The Navy calls it a grounding, so it was a grounding.
Quote "Although the grounding incident compelled me to punish [him] and remove him from command, in my opinion it does not negate 19 years of exemplary service," the admiral wrote. "Prior to the grounding incident, USS San Francisco demonstrated a trend of continuing improvement and compiled an impressive record of achievement under [Mooney's] leadership. Moreover, the crew's post-grounding response under his direct leadership was commendable and enabled [the sub's] recovery and safe return to port.

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=18257

COMMAND INVESTIGATION OF THE APPARENT SUBMERGED GROUNDING OF THE USS SAN FRANCISCO
https://www.npr.org/documents/2005/may/uss_sanfrancisco_sub.pdf


Mike, all of the above is navy BS in trying to mitigate the fact that this boat crashed into a mountain in which personel died, many were injured and the boat was in danger of sinking if not for the bravery of it's crew.
Period; case closed.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dr. Stan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 1:02pm
I stumbled across an alternative explanation of the incident.  I DO NOT vouch for the validity of this point of view.  This for your amusement and entertainment ONLY. 

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REMEMBER THAT SUMATRA QUAKE TSUNAMI CAUSED BY USS SAN FRANCISCO SUBMARINE EXPERIMENT THAT KILLED FEW HUNDRED THOUSANDS.. (Parts I, II & III)

http://defensetiger.blogspot.com/search/label/USS%20San%20Francisco



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