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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oldsubs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2019 at 9:25pm
Nobeak, and San Fran will be in the 'bumped into stuff, not other vessels list.

Marshall and Rogers and Von Steuben will be added to the 'with other vessels list' as well as Growler and Bugara.  Does anyone have dates for Marshal, Rogers and Bugara and Von Steuben?

What was the boat that sank the student's school research boat off Hawaii? 

I found the names for a couple of the Soviet boats. 


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Atlantic 04/09/62: The USS Thomas A. Edison (SSBN-610) collides with the USS Wadleigh (DD-689) during antisubmarine warfare exercises 200 miles east of Norfolk, Virginia. The Edison's topside rudder is slightly bent and the destroyer's forward bottom plates are pierced.  The Edison is repaired at Newport News, Virginia, in several hours while the Wadleigh goes into drydock for several weeks. According to a Navy spokesman the collision resulted from a misunderstanding between the two ships andoccurred as the Edison was surfacing. No one is injured.
https://jerry88acwv-americancoldwarveterans.blogspot.com/2009/05/naval-accidents-during-cold-war.html

This happened a year before I came aboard the Edison.  But I heard about it many times over from those who were on board when the "Fifty Million Dollar Can Opener" opened a 20 foot long gash in the bottom of the "tin can" known as the USS Wadleigh (DD-689).  BTW, the rudder was bent over about 45 deg., which was more than slightly bent.  While the Edison was being repaired at Newport News (for several days, not hours) President Kennedy, who was a personal friend of our CO, Capt. Charles Young, came to visit the Edison.  The rudder was quickly cut off, a frame erected and put a tarp over it to hide the damage.  The Aux Div devised a special sling to lower Kennedy down the AMR1 hatch, because of his back injury.  There are some photos of Kennedy's visit here:  http://www.northofseveycorners.com/ntins/bbs_007a.htm


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Deleted due to an attack of imposed relaxation.


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Bugara/Whitehurst collision was 3 August 1952 (NOT  1953)

  https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/b/bugara0.html
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Originally posted by oldsubs oldsubs wrote:


What was the boat that sank the student's school research boat off Hawaii?  


On 9 February 2001, about 9 nautical miles (17 km) south of Oahu, Hawaii, the United States Navy (USN) Los Angeles-class submarine USS Greeneville (SSN-772) collided with the Japanese-fishery high-schooltraining ship Ehime Maru (えひめ丸) from Ehime Prefecture.
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I kinda agree with not including colliding with a tug in the same list as Growler's legendary action.  I am open for suggestions/recommendations as to how to rectify the issue.  How about a separate list for "wartime collisions and rammings"?

Thanks for the added information. 

Just remembered the George Washington's cutting a freighter in half in the Pacific.  I'll research the date/location.
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SaltiDawg.
Relax please.  I take your point but this is an initial list and does not sort by meaningful collisions and those of lesser interest.  Three men died in the heroic action of Growler while only one died in the accidental tug/SSBN collision.  The listing right now is only a collection. 

Perhaps when I think we might have them all you can add comments as to the relative importance of each.

In the meantime, relax please.
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Wasted my time.


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Ok, if you want to get worked up over the list in its formative stage, that is your decision.  No one is saying one line item is more or less important than another at this point.  I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you. My time is too short to go there.

I will warn you though, I may have to put a red line under your name on my Christmas Card List. 
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You are right about the Ben Franklin/tug collision.  No one died.  I was thinking of another SSBN/tug collision. Sorry.
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