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Torpedoman's Mate (TM) Rating is BACK

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    Posted: 08 Oct 2019 at 3:42pm

The silent service spoke, and the Navy listened.

During an April all hands call convened by then-Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson at Washington’s Naval Base Kitsap, sailors wondered if he could resurrect the submarine torpedoman’s mate rate.

It was absorbed into the machinist’s mate rate in 1995, but on Tuesday [October 1, 2019] it was born again.

Machinist’s mates assigned to subs last night transformed into torpedoman’s mates, a change the Navy said “will renew the heritage and pride" among those who man the tubes, according to an announcement posted Monday.

Out of a force of roughly 21,000 sailors, the reestablished rating affects nearly 1,100 personnel, according to Submarine Force Atlantic spokeswoman Cmdr. Jodie Cornell.

The torpedoman rating was launched in 1921 and renamed torpedoman’s mate 21 years later.

On Oct. 1, 1995 torpedomen on subs began the process of being folded into the machinist’s mates (weapons) rating.


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Gerry,
Did this change to MM affect the surface navy TM rating also RM. Were these changes only to the submarine community??
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Joe,
Unknown for sure, but it sounds like in the surface Navy, TMs stayed TMs while sub TM became MMW. The article further suggests that while our brothers and sisters are now TMs again, they will still be taking whatever rating exams they have been taking... hopefully the TM exam and not the MMA exam.

Don't see anything anywhere suggesting ETR is converting back to RM, or FTBs emerging out of MT.

FWIW, I think homogenization of enlisted ratings is a BAD idea.
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Originally posted by Runner485 Runner485 wrote:


Did this change to MM affect the surface navy TM rating also RM. Were these changes only to the submarine community??


Surface TM went to GM, so they are not affected. The reason submarine TM became MMW was torpedoes required no action except shipping/unshipping and tube loaded/unloaded. The maintenance in the room was more in line with what MMs did (hydraulics).

Surface RM became IT (Information System Technician) after a merge with DP. Submarine RM became ET because they were more technicians than operators. Then ITS was created for submarines.
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Originally posted by FTGC(SS) Lane FTGC(SS) Lane wrote:

Originally posted by Runner485 Runner485 wrote:


Did this change to MM affect the surface navy TM rating also RM. Were these changes only to the submarine community??


Surface TM went to GM, so they are not affected. The reason submarine TM became MMW was torpedoes required no action except shipping/unshipping and tube loaded/unloaded. The maintenance in the room was more in line with what MMs did (hydraulics).

Surface RM became IT (Information System Technician) after a merge with DP. Submarine RM became ET because they were more technicians than operators. Then ITS was created for submarines.


Thanks for that info Mike. I never heard it drilled down that far...Now, all that has to happen is everyone affected should get a hefty raise to reflect their new found knowledge??? Right? Tongue
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