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    Posted: 17 Oct 2017 at 4:50pm

Police in south Georgia are investigating after two U.S. Navy sailors were found dead at a home four days apart.

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They were both assigned to the Base, not sure if they were Sub Qualified. I noted that drugs were suspected. Haven't read anything since.
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According to the article FTGC(SS) posted, one sailor was assigned to TTF (Trident Training Facility), while the other was assigned to USS Wyoming. While official tox reports are not in (or released) an unnamed Navy official stated these were cocaine overdoses. 

In the 80s, when I was in, we couldnt have afforded coke even if we'd been inclined... but we did have a few sailors on my command who liked their weed. 

Any of you experience drug use among your crews? How did it turn out? 
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What happened "back in the day" really isn't relevant to today's sailors. Most of my contemporaries are at least 60 years old.
But here you go.
One shipmate, when asked what he was going to do when he got out, told the XO he was going to smoke dope and listen to his hair grow. This was back in the days when boats were known to bring back drugs from Thailand.
On another boat I found a pot pipe made from pipe fittings, we had an idea who the users were.
One shipmate was taken to mast for use of cocaine. He brought his girlfriend as a witness. She told the Skipper she used it on her private parts as sexual stimulant without the sailor's knowledge. The sailor was acquitted.
A class at a school in San Diego was busted for drugs. But there was a Chief in that class and the community Chiefs and above convinced the CO/XO that the test must have been faulty because of the Chief. That Chief was busted later, when he was a Senior Chief, for drugs; the test was not faulty.
Finally one E6 shipmate was rumored to be a user but was never caught. He was transferred and I ran into him, a few years later, at SubSchool where he was a E7, he was busted for his drug use. The rumors were factual.  
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One time, in the 90s, when I was in USS Henry M. Jackson (SSBN730B)... I was on watch at CAMP (a security and monitoring watch in the Missile Compartment. Located about the same place that Launcher was on the 41 for Freedom. We're on patrol, midwatch. WEPS (my Department Head) is touring the ship before relieving the OOD. WEPS is a good cat, mustang, and by default is the Nuclear Weapons Security Officer, and as such, PRP certifying officer on the ship. I happened to be his Assistant in that role. 

Anywho, he comes sneaking into CAMP (cause that's just how he operated), to find me there with a calculator and a piece of paper with many figures on it. 

"Petty Officer Smith." he says.
"Sir?" I says (we were on a first name basis like that).
"What are you doing there?"
"Well, Sir, I was just thinking... a missile tube is about xx" in diameter and yy" long. This gives it a volume of zz cubic feet."
"... riiiight. And?"
"Well, sir, the way I figure it, if we took a little side trip to south america, and packed just ONE missile tube with cocaine and brought it back, every man-jack on this ship could retire very wealthy. As an officer, you'd get a larger cut, of course."
He just stood there staring at me for about 10 seconds then turned and walked off forward saying "Carry on, Petty Officer Smith."

He was a great boss.
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So, you were like the guys on NR-1. She had been dispatched to the Caribbean to find a certain spy plane. No I ain't saying where or when. During the sweeps, the bored nuke, diver, emergency welder, ELT, types put both their heads together and figured just how rich the crew could get if the magnetometers happened to lock in on an old ship wreck, and somehow the coordinates were noted someplace. When overheard at the microwave, they were quickly told to not even think any thoughts like that. Plus severely lectured (threatened) when relieved by other crew members in normal rotation. They never mentioned it again, but did look into bare-boating the Carib next leave. I hear those old cannons made a heck of a signature.

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I'd mistrust people who DIDNT think of things like that from time to time. Of course, *acting* on those thoughts is a problem too. 
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Cocaine OD deaths are fairly rare, but nowadays users have no idea what else is in that line of powder or crack-pipe. Fentanyl variants imported from China and elsewhere are being mixed with street drugs, for instance. And that sh*t CAN be fatal in single doses. 
As far as personal observations, I began to see signs of usage (weed & speed) on my last boat, and on shore duty (Pearl), in the late 1960s and early 70's.
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