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    Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 8:56am
Fresh Salad At Sea: Military Considers Gardens Aboard Subs

Jennifer Mcdermott, Associated Press, July 5

NATICK, Mass.— When a Navy submarine goes to sea on a months-long voyage, the lettuce, tomatoes and other fresh fruits and vegetables on board run out in a week or two, forcing the crew to rely on canned, frozen or dehydrated products. But what if subs had their own gardens where food could be grown under lights?

The U.S. military is testing out the idea by growing plants hydroponically — that is, with nutrient solution instead of soil — inside a 40-foot shipping container on dry land at a laboratory outside Boston.
Engineering technician Don Holman, who grew up on a farm in Michigan before serving 30 years in the Navy, is running the $100,000 project at the Army's Natick Soldier Research, Development and Engineering Center. He said sailors have been asking for more produce. "When you give someone something they want, it improves their morale. And they perform better when morale is up,"  said Holman, who will present a technical report in September so the Navy can decide whether to attempt
gardening beneath the sea.

This is the second phase of the testing. Holman first tried to grow 83 varieties of fruits and vegetables to see which ones did best. The leafy greens and green onions thrived. Root vegetables did fairly well. Strawberries and rhubarb grew but probably wouldn't produce enough to make it worthwhile, Holman said. The cucumbers, on the other hand, were a mess. The vines climbed everywhere. And the large leaves on the zucchini plants blocked the lights. The tomato plants grew but didn't produce fruit because the lighting wasn't bright enough and the temperature was too low.
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In today's environment of grow it - smoke it I gotta hunch as to what else would be planted if this project works and moves on to sea.

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On a trip we never took any fresh food EDIT: refrigerated food other than what would be eaten the day we got underway.  No fresh milk other than in the machine.  All freeze box stuff and store room and deck plate stowage.


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Originally posted by SaltiDawg SaltiDawg wrote:

On a trip we never took any fresh food other than what would be eaten the day we got underway. 

You never took potatoes, carrots or eggs?
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Originally posted by FTGC(SS) Lane FTGC(SS) Lane wrote:

Originally posted by SaltiDawg SaltiDawg wrote:

On a trip we never took any fresh food other than what would be eaten the day we got underway. 

You never took potatoes, carrots or eggs?

I said no "fresh" food. I should have said no "refrigerated" food.  Sorry.

No chill box on a "trip." - three SSNs. Always converted the reefer to a freeze box prior.

Took eggs.  Stowed in Diesel Room in the Bow Cmpt. on at least two of the three 637s.  After 60+ days the eggs were mostly still good.  Occasional bad one.  Thus the notion of breaking them individually into  bowl.

Candidly, I don't remember about potatoes. But certainly not refrigerated.  Smile




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Do I remember that the eggs were coated with wax or something to keep the air from getting
through the shell and spoiling the egg????
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Originally posted by gcconnor1 gcconnor1 wrote:

Do I remember that the eggs were coated with wax or something to keep the air from getting
through the shell and spoiling the egg????

Not washing eggs allows them to stay fresh longer.  Our eggs were still in the crates - only nature's coating. (Or however they are routinely shipped.)


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I had always heard that they were wax coated. Might have been a rumor but they did look shiny.
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Originally posted by SaltiDawg SaltiDawg wrote:

I said no "fresh" food. I should have said no "refrigerated" food.  Sorry.

Snuck up on ya! Wink
On two Pascagoula built boats the bench lockers at the six man tables were set up for potatoes. The funny thing is I can't remember if my last boat, a Mare Island one, was like that.
Eggs in the diesel. Ordered eggs over hard every breakfast. When  I got scrambled I knew the next breakfast would have to be pancakes.


Now back to the garden thing. I wonder have they considered how clean the atmosphere is while underway and how that might affect the results?
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Originally posted by FTGC(SS) Lane FTGC(SS) Lane wrote:

Originally posted by SaltiDawg SaltiDawg wrote:

I said no "fresh" food. I should have said no "refrigerated" food.  Sorry.

Snuck up on ya! Wink
... Ordered eggs over hard every breakfast. When  I got scrambled I knew the next breakfast would have to be pancakes.

We always joked when on a Trip that "Commence Snorkeling" would have resulted in us eating nothing but eggs for a day or two.

Funny, I remember where A Gang stowed a case of Kim Wipes on Trepang.  Discovered it while Snorkeling along side the pier in Ft Lauderdale.  No Shore Power, Reactor Shutdown. I was the ONLY Officer on Board.

A Gang stowed them on top of the Diesel Exhaust.  !@#$%.  (Think Heavy Acrid Smoke and Fire In The Bow Compartment.)  Lots of tales to tell about that hour or so.

Glad the KOG nor NR nor anyone but us Duty Section was there... Nuke and Non-nuke.


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