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Originally posted by 610ET 610ET wrote:


You're welcome.


I do remember Mooney and Hagar both when they posted here. And thanks for posting that news story. I remember seeing the photos of 711 when she returned and in dry dock...That was no grounding of 711. That boat crashed into a mountain at full speed. To me grounding infers bouncing off the bottom, or something similar like that.
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You're welcome.
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Never mind.


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You wrote that you were not familiar with this story so I posted the link to it.

I thought you might find it interesting.



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I first referred to the grounding as, "With a "grounding" of virtually any sort..."

But a "grounding" nevertheless!

It does sound as if what I suggested is in fact consistent with the Navy's actions after the casualty.

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Originally posted by SaltiDawg SaltiDawg wrote:



I'm not familiar with this grounding other than brief reference in this book - by an author that had not earned any respect as shown by his admissions.


Not your average grounding.

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/18/us/adrift-500-feet-under-the-sea-a-minute-was-an-eternity.html


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Originally posted by Dr. Stan Dr. Stan wrote:

I still don't remember Dean, but I do recall how they blamed the Frisco's QM because their maps weren't up to date.  If Dean was a QM he might have received a lot of grief because of that.

Speaking of John Carcioppolo, I haven't heard anything about him for a long time.  Hope he is OK.

With a "grounding" of virtually any sort, pretty understandable if NAV, CO, and Quartergasket(s), not to mention OOD have some blame.
"Some blame" means career ending, at least.

I'm not familiar with this grounding other than brief reference in this book - by an author that had not earned any respect as shown by his admissions.


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I still don't remember Dean, but I do recall how they blamed the Frisco's QM because their maps weren't up to date.  If Dean was a QM he might have received a lot of grief because of that.

Speaking of John Carcioppolo, I haven't heard anything about him for a long time.  Hope he is OK.
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Originally posted by Dr. Stan Dr. Stan wrote:

I remember CDR Mooney and Senior Chief Hager, but not Dean (?).  Apparently Danny Hager still comes around to visit:  Danny Hager - Last Visit:  15 Apr 2018.  Last post:  30 Jan 2018.   



Dean (?) started posting here when he was at BESS. John Carcioppolo took him under his wing and when he qualified, he wore John's dolphins.

He was pretty gung ho but as a QM got caught up in the aftermath and I believe received some NJP? Don't know what happened after that. SCPO Hager could probably fill in the blanks.
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Originally posted by SaltiDawg SaltiDawg wrote:

The author repeatedly made mistakes on Checking Rig for Dive, blamed everyone but himself for being Dink, while visiting back in the States got a Former Shipmate to falsify his Dive Qual Card Sigs for him, and many more issues.

I never served with an Officer, or Enlisted man, that needed to be disqualed more than this clown! (And this based on his own telling of his own misdeeds.)



You got that right Jerry...
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