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SaltiDawg 
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 Posted: 18 Aug 2018 at 2:29pm |
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Nothings changed. Does not anyone recall the Zumwalt decrees? Six Section, In for the Weekends, return NLT Friday noon, U/W not earlier than 1200 Monday. (Or similar.) Two crews pre-dated him, while every swinging SS or SSN person on the river had an operating Tempo well North of 60% PLUS Three Section Duty for THE Crew. Avoid the in port for the weekend requirement by operating for either two weeks or three weeks.
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Flapper
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Posted: 18 Aug 2018 at 2:01pm |
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Is there no current COLA equivalent? I got it in both San Diego and Oahu during the 60's and early 70's. E5/E6 at the time. Idaho, Groton didn't rate COLA, IIRC.
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ET1ss Nuke; 1962 - 1973. SSN-588, CVA-63, SSBN-629 BLUE, SSN-669 PLANKOWNER, FICPAC
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c stafford
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Joined: 04 Jan 2016 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 290 |
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Posted: 18 Aug 2018 at 10:52am |
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I have a problem with current recruiting.
The Navy gives the impression that all E2's - E5's can have a wife, kids, and a new car on their monthly pay. In San Diego, there are wives complaining that they are on food stamps and can't afford clothes for their kids. San Diego is an expensive place to live. It is hard to recruit with expectations that do not meet reality.
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Chris
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Sewer Pipe Snipe
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Posted: 18 Aug 2018 at 9:11am |
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The question about two crews, and the comments on three crews two ships, reflects modern society. One of the problems we had in the agricultural industry was recruiting and keeping engineers. Many of our procurement operations were out in the boondocks. Folks didn't want to live and raise families there. They wanted to be where the action was, where they could do everything, and have exposure to everything. They didn't want to have to work overtime, wanted maximum vacations and Holidays, and didn't enjoy the idea of working them on continuous run operations. I imagine it is also true in the Navy these days. That is why I think we are going to see a shift in deployments and quality of family life. The new folks, the ones that are any good at what they do, want to write their own ticket as to work and conditions. To recruit these folks, the military is going to have to rethink things. I believe I first saw it with the elite SEAL's. In Country they were referred to as tourists, because they had three month deployments. What all the reasons behind that were, I am not sure. However, retention was probably one of the reasons. As their stress load was equal to a Force Recon, LRRP, Combat Tracker and SOG.
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