Three Blasts on Diving Alarm

I dunno, but for the summers of 1953&4 Toro did school boat out of NLON SUBSCOL. That's 5 days/wk 18 dives & surfaces/day for approx. 6 months. It was always 3 blasts followed by "Surface Surface Surface" and if anybody would think that, even at my age I couldn't remember that, they gotta be kidding.

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atozdbf wrote: ... It was always 3 blasts followed by "Surface Surface Surface"  ...

You are the first person that I have ever heard suggest that the 3 blasts were sounded before the word was passed.

What was the sequence on subsequent boats on which you served?




Edited by SaltiDawg - 30 Jan 2016 at 2:18pm

610ET wrote: I'm sure he just meant that both things happened. I was in Control for every dive and surface and I can assure you that both things happened and that there is no confusion on my part. Why not just enjoy your book? It doesn't seem likely that this little detail will affect the plot or outcome. Watch the Hunt for Red October or Crimson Tide if you want your head to really explode.

Are you  flippin loony? I never accused him of any "confusion." I never addressed him, as I tend to ignore his posts because of reasons best kept to myself.

The last GD thing I need is for you to tell me " this little detail will (not)  affect the plot or outcome."  Go back and read the thread from my original post.. I was enjoying myself and I think some others were too. I never asked what the proper sequence was in the book I am reading - I know that answer.  I mentioned I had seen the usage in a few other books and asked for recollections to help sort that out.

As to "I'm sure he just meant that both things happened."  The very purpose of this thread was to discuss the sequence of events.  Also, while I missed it earlier in the thread - I told you I generally don't read Steve's threads - he made the identical assertion about the sequence and also made an assertion that diesel boats didn't airless surface.  That is flat-butted wrong.

We fought a war in the Pacific where most every surface while on patrol were airless surfaces.  Think wanted to have air in the banks when that plane came swooping down after surfacing and think not wanting to run the air compressor nor make the noise when surfacing for that night time surfaced torpedo attack.  Also, many NLON school boats made numerous airless surfaces because they would otherwise air bank be limited as to continued submerged Ops and surfacing.

I was on a Diesel Boat in Key West doing daily ops for Sonar School.  We ALWAYS did airless surfaces on the way home so the Duty Section didn't have to have to do it.

Boats without bow planes and boats with smaller MBT Vents generally have a lot of trouble doing airless surfaces, because I'm sure you know, part of the airless surface process is to run with the vents and try to broach at speed using planes and angle and capture a bubble in the forward MBTs.  Come to think of it, what kind of boat has bow planes and disproportionately large vents?

I don't think I've stuck my nose into any of your threads with a cheap shot, don't know why you think its OK.

I was enjoying this thread - just hate to see misinformation and snide shots at young nukeypoo types and similar.

I'm 8-9 years younger than Steve and I honestly have no idea how much time he spent on the boats.  His posted recollection is from over 60 years ago and I typically can't recollect what I had for breakfast this morning.  More power to him!

Final thing, before I fade off into the sunset, read my post above.  While I did suggest that some of us may be confused, I did not even offer an opinion as to what the sequence of announcement/alarms actually was.  I still don't know.  Some DBFs told conflicting stories.  Some Boomers did also.  I'm not even sure if the SSNs were all consistent.

Thanks for the movie suggestions.  SPOILER ALERT:  They're both fiction.




Edited by SaltiDawg - 30 Jan 2016 at 5:49pm

SaltiDawg wrote: Boats without bow planes and boats with smaller MBT Vents generally have a lot of trouble doing airless surfaces,

We started doing airless surfaces on the 648 about 1981 and the 666 was doing it when I reported aboard . It was easy. Broach. Start the LP blower when holding broach and the head valve popped open and ran it until 17# back pressure. The boat was actually safely surfaced before that back pressure was achieved.

FTGC(SS) Lane wrote: 610ET wrote: I was in Control for every dive and surface and I can assure you that both things happened and that there is no confusion on my part. Well that is not had to do when a boat only does two dives and two surfaces a patrol cycle. Shoot I did six (three and three) in 17 months aboard the 642. But I did far more than that qualifying for and in my first three months standing COW. And I am not sure how many I did in combination of the two watches over 6 years. "Dive, prepare to surface" "Prepare to surface, aye" "Chief of the watch, pass on the 1MC 'prepare to surface'" "Pass on the 1MC 'prepare to surface, aye' [on 1MC] "Prepare to surface" ... "Dive the ship is ready to surface" "The ship is ready to surface, Aye". "Officer of the Deck, the ship is ready to surface" "Very well" ... Dive, Surface the ship" "Surface the ship, aye" "Chief of the Watch, pass on the 1MC 'Surface, Surface, Surface'" "Pass on the 1MC 'Surface, Surface, Surface', aye" [on 1MC] "Surface, Surface, Surface" "Blow the forward group, blow the after group" {The last part is different when doing an airless surface}

Actually we did a lot more evolution's than that particularly coming out of the shipyard. But, so what the number?

The surfacing procedure on my boat was what I stated and apparently that was also true on on other boats as stated by others.

Interesting that there was not uniformity in the procedure.