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    Posted: 18 Sep 2019 at 8:20pm
Submarines are awkward beasties.  They are long and slim and roll like pigs.  Now and then they get too close to things they ought not to be close to.  Then they go bump, sometimes with tragic results.  Below is the list I have of US Submarine collisions with other vessels (not groundings, piers, sewalls or underwater mountains.  It is incomplete and could use some updating.  Any new information or corrections will be shared of course and will be appreciated. 

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Date Vessel One Vessel Two General Area Remark
07/10/10 Bonita (SS-15) Castine (PG-6) Provincetown, MA
03/09/12 Bonita(SS-15) E-2 (SS-25) Brooklyn, NY
10/16/17 Octopus (SS-9) Bonita (SS-15) ? Place
12/17/17 F-1(SS-20) F-3 (SS-22) Off Point Loma, CA
12/14/18 O-16 (SS-77) R-15 (SS-92) Off Cristobal, PCZ
08/20/23 R-8 (SS-85) R-11 (SS-88) at Pearl Harbor
08/20/24 S-3 (SS-107) S-49 (SS-160) New London, CT
07/18/24 S-33 (SS-138) S-35 (SS140) “in the Pacific”
11/11/24 R-5 (SS-82) S-16 (SS-121) “in Asiatic Waters”
11/22/24 S-3 (SS-107) R-16 (SS-93) while submerged off Pearl Harbor Date issue
12/30/24 S-3 (SS-107) S-48 (SS-159) off Block Island Date issue
09/25/25 S-51(SS-162) City of Rome off Block Island
10/05/25 R-8 (SS-85) Widgeon (AM-22) at Pearl Harbor
10/15/25 S-25 (SS-130) Ortolan (AM-45) ? Place
12/17/27 S-4 (SS-109) Paulding (CG-17) Off Provencetown
09/13/40 Shark (SS174) Yorktown (CV-5) off Pearl Harbor
01/24/42 S-26 (SS-131) PC-460 off Balboa, PCZ
10/08/43 Halibut (SS-232) Thomas (DD-102) off Hawaii
11/10/44 Thornback (SS-418) CG-211 off Portsmouth, NH
12/08/44 Cuttlefish (SS-171) Bray (DE-709) off Boston, MA
02/06/45 Flounder (SS-251) Hoe (SS-258) while submerged off coast of Indo-China
01/11/46 Argonaut (SS-475) Honolulu (CL-48) off New Jersey
05/27/47 Torsk (SS-423) Johnston (DD-821) New London, CT
03/02/49 Perch (SS-313) Orleck (DD-886) off San Diego
10/31/54 Bergall (SS-320) Norris (DD-859) at Norfolk, VA
08/22/55 Halfbeak (SS-352) HMCS Micmac at New York
08/07/57 Cobbler (SS-344) Tusk (SS-426) off New Jersey
05/29/58 Stickleback (SS415) Silverstein (DD534) off Pearl Harbor
07/24/58 Skate (SSN-578) Fulton (AS-11) New London, CT
01/28/59 Skate (SSN-578) Cubera (SS-347) “in the Atlantic”
04/09/59 Raton (SS-270) George K. MacKenzie (DD-836) “in the Pacific”
06/07/63 Tinosa (SSN-606) John Adams (SSBN-620) at Portsmouth, NH
10/13/65 Barb (SSN-596) Sargo (SSN-583) off Pearl Harbor
11/10/66 Nautilus(SSN571) Essex (CV-9) off North Carolina
08/31/67 Simon Bolivar (SSBN-641) Betelgeuse (AK-260) off Charleston, SC
11/14/69 Gato (SSN-615) Soviet SSN/SSBN in Barents Sea
?? jun 70 Tautog (SSN-639) Soviet SSGN North Pacific Date ?
??mar71 Sturgeon Class Soviet SSN/SSBN ? Date ?
01/08/74 Finback (SSN-670) Kittiwake (ASR-13) off Norfolk, VA
11/03/74 James Madison (SSBN-627) Soviet submarine North Sea
09/28/77 Archerfish (SSN-678) Philadelphia (SSN-690) at New London, CT
04/27/81 Jack (SSN-605) Trenton (LPD-14) at Alexandria, Egypt
??jul82 Permit (SSN-594) LaJolla (SSN-701) off San Francisco, CA Date ?
04/23/84 Bergall (SSN-667) Kittiwake (ASR-13) off Norfolk, VA
03/24/86 Gergia (SSBN-729) Secota (YTM-415) at Midway Is.
?? oct 86 Augusta (SSN-710) Soviet SSN/SSBN North Atlantic Date ?
01/10/89 Salt Lake City (SSN-716) Soviet SSN ? Place
01/16/89 Norfolk (SSN-714) San Diego (AFS-6) in Chesapeake Bay
01/21/89 City of Corpus Christi (SSN-705) Soviet SSN ? Place
04/13/89 Sea Devil (SSN-664) Miller (FF-1091) in Pacific
11/06/91 Spadefish (SSN-668) Nohic ?? ? Place
02/11/92 Baton Rouge (SSN-689) Russian Sierra Class off Murmansk, RU
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Uss Von Steuben SSBN 632 / Sea Lady / Aug 1968 / Southern coast of Spain
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USS Ray SSN 653 / Undersea Mount / September 77 I believe Don Gentry has some personal experience on this one.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oldsubs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2019 at 7:05am
I'm working, albeit slowly, on a listing of groundings and hitting things besides other vessels.  That will include Ray and Honolulu and many others.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runner485 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2019 at 8:23am
[QUOTE=Sewer Pipe Snipe]USS Ray SSN 653 / Undersea Mount / September 77 I believe Don Gentry has some personal experience on this one.[/QUOTE

Was Don driving the boat at the time...Wink
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USS Bugara SS-331 collided with USS Whitehurst DE-634 while at periscope depth in 1953.                                                                                                                                                                              

Bugara was training near Pearl Harbor with USS Whitehurst (DE-634), a Buckley class destroyer escort. Bugara came to periscope depth and briefly spotted the numbers "634" bearing down on her at about 15 knots. Then, the collision occurred. Rick Farris was a Bugara crewman at the time and related this story. "I was onboard, alone on 'motor room' watch when the Bugara Incident occurred. When we were hit, there was a loud ongoing crashing sound, as the DE Whitehurst passed over. A few very anxious minutes then ensued. The impact caused the boat to roll severely, take a steep down angle, and plunge deeper - giving every indication a forward compartment had flooded and we were headed for the bottom, 9600 feet below. Even the old, salty WW 2 vets on board were highly impressed!! Finally, 'control' stopped the downward movement, and we eventually surfaced without difficulty. Damage was fairly serious. The small 'pump room' flooded, both scopes required replacement, the upper half of the sail and shears needed extensive repairs, etc. We were in the yard several weeks and the cost was, I'm sure, substantial."

USS Whitehurst (DE-634)

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Don't forget the USS San Francisco, with Joey Ashley, Danny Haggard and Kevin Mooney aboard.

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Off the top of my head, USS Growler (SS-215) with CDR Howard Gilmore in Command.   7 Feb 1943  "Take her down!"


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December 1967,the George C Marshall SSBN-654 collided with  a Soviet submarine while submerged on patrol in the Mediterranean,
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Everything corrected by others.


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